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      Betreff: Yahoo! admits deleting anti-US posts 
      Datum: Donnerstag, 22. November 2001 05:59 
      
      From: Barry Stoller <bstoller@utopia2000.org> 
      Subject: [L-I] Yahoo! admits deleting anti-US posts 
       
        [A couple of days late -- but a significant story nonetheless...] 
      Washington Post. 19 November 2001. Screening Free Speech? 
      Yahoo's message boards are erupting with the kind of free-flowing, 
        impassioned discussions the Internet's creators always dreamed of, with 
        postings about practically every aspect of the hunt for terrorists, the 
        capture of Kabul and mysterious plane crashes. 
      But what's also revealing is what is being deleted. 
      Gone are some gloating messages that say America deserved the attacks. 
      Gone are some links to extremist sites promoting a jihad, or holy war, 
        against the Western world. 
      Gone too is a sarcastic note posted by college student Usman Sheikh: 
      "America succesfully [sic] attacks terrorists, pinpoint smart bombing," 
        the note began, linking to pictures of bloody children who were hurt or 
        killed as a result of the recent military raids. 
      The Sunnyvale, Calif.-based online company, which runs the most popular 
        destination on the World Wide Web, removed the note soon after it was 
        posted, drawing applause from those who say they're happy to see that 
        the Internet is finally getting a conscience. 
      But others worry about what such censorship by the likes of America 
        Online, MSN and Lycos means for a medium widely regarded as a haven for 
        free speech and openness. 
      "The Western media and politicians keep talking about their freedom 
        of 
        speech, freedom of expression and how they are against the censoring of 
        different views... yet they are no different from any oppressive Third 
        World country or any dictatorship," Sheikh, 20, said in an interview. 
      While many perceive the Internet as a public sidewalk where people are 
        protected by federal law, it really operates more like a collection of 
        private buildings run by for-profit businesses that have the legal right 
        to screen their content as they please. 
      People who come to the Web sites must obey the companies' "terms 
        of 
        service" agreements, which are in their simplest terms long lists 
        of 
        legally binding do's and don'ts. 
      Yahoo and other companies use similar language to prohibit the posting 
        of anything that's "unlawful, harmful, threatening, abusive, harassing, 
        tortious, defamatory, vulgar, obscene, libelous, invasive of another's 
        privacy, hateful, or racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable." 
      In the past, "we would err on the side of 'If it's distasteful, 
        let it 
        stay,' " said Stephen Killeen, president of Terra Lycos U.S. "Now, 
        we 
        err on the side of 'If you want to post this kind of information, you 
        don't have to do it here.' " 
      "The sentiment in the United States changed on September 11 about 
        what's 
        acceptable and what's not in terms of what you can say," Killeen 
        explained. 
      Regardless of their legal standing, some worry that the Internet 
        companies are moving more aggressively in recent weeks to screen content 
        on their sites. 
      "In times of war, there has been a willingness among Americans to 
        give 
        up some rights -- to honor curfews, martial law and even restrictions 
        on 
        speech... The filtering of Internet message boards is part of all this," 
        said Stuart Biegel, a professor at the University of California at Los 
        Angeles who specializes in law and cyberspace. 
      Some say Internet companies are screening material with a double 
        standard -- supporting patriotic messages while frowning on those that 
        criticize the government's actions. 
      In some cases, people say, anti-U.S. or anti-Israeli messages appear 
        to 
        be deleted faster and more frequently than anti-Arab posts. 
      Laila Al-Qatami, a spokeswoman for the the Arab-American 
        Anti-Discrimination Committee, said some Internet companies have been 
        slow to respond to concerns expressed by Muslims. 
      "We have had several cases reported to us of postings by people 
        with 
        Arab-sounding names being taken down because they expressed a different 
        point of view. Likewise, we've been told of harassing messages against 
        people of Arab descent not being taken down," she said. 
      Yahoo has deleted a note calling someone a "zionist israeli scum 
        bag." 
        But another message -- "Muslims are against the jews because muslims 
        are 
        too greedy. They want to take israels teeny weeny land. That's how 
        greedy and parasitic these muslims are. America should wipe them all 
        out." -- has remained up for weeks despite several complaints lodged 
        by 
        users and copied to The Washington Post. 
      Postings by "heil_bush" appear to have been taken down while 
        those by 
        "mad_muhammed," "burn_islam" and "endless_flood_of_islamic_blood" 
        remain 
        online. 
      Shiekh, who has been frequenting the Yahoo message boards for two years, 
        said people's opinions should not be censored. 
      [N.B.] Earlier this month, he tried four times to post variations of 
        his 
        message about children being injured in the U.S. raids but each one was 
        deleted within a few hours. 
      He's also complained to Yahoo repeatedly about messages that he says 
        express anti-Arab sentiment, only to get a form letter in return 
        thanking him for his input. 
      If the company can be so aggressive about taking down his messages, he 
        said, "surely Yahoo can do much, much more to take action against 
        the 
        numerous hatemongers and racists we have plaguing the Islamic [message] 
        boards making racist posts everyday and using all the filth at their 
        disposal." 
      Yahoo spokeswoman Nicki Dugan said the company does not actively police 
        its boards but simply responds to complaints from users and removes 
        material at the discretion of the team of screeners. Each complaint is 
        evaluated individually, she added, and action is taken within 24 hours. 
      "We're straddling the fine line between enabling people to communicate 
        freely and preventing people from posting things that are unlawful or 
        harmful in any way," she said. 
      Indeed, some complain that Yahoo doesn't do enough to police its site. 
        In a note posted on a financial message board this week, one person 
        called on the online service and the FBI to be more vigilant. "Can 
        you 
        please explain why... some anti-American [expletive] on this board has 
        not been sniffed out and snuffed out yet?" the correspondent wrote. 
      Another protested: "I can't believe that Yahoo lets [people post] 
        anti-American celebrations." 
      A 36-year-old businessman who goes by the online alias "spiderrico" 
        said 
        he has been shocked by some messages he's read on Yahoo that say America 
        should blame itself for the attacks on the World Trade Center and 
        Pentagon. He said he is conflicted about how Yahoo should deal with the 
        authors. 
      "I know freedom of speech is important, but at a time like this 
        I don't 
        want to read messages sympathizing with the terrorists," he said 
        in an 
        interview. 
       
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      Barry Stoller 
        http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ProletarianNews 
        with continuing coverage of WWIII 
      
       
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